Council seeks help with PD Building

By Larry Blaskey
Douglas Dispatch
Published/Last Modified on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:24 PM MDT


The Douglas City Council decided to seek professional assistance on Monday to help determine the best possible use of the old Phelps Dodge Mercantile Building, located on the corner of 10th Street and G Avenue.


During the special meeting, the council adjourned and took a quick 20-minute tour of the building it now owns.

After more than an hour of discussion and remarks by Greater Douglas Chamber of Commerce board members, it seems like there is little that can be done as far as retail uses of the building are concerned.

The bond issue the city is locked into prevents them from using more than 5 percent of the total square footage as retail space, and they already have that allotted.

Mayor Dr. Michael Gomez asked what could be done to increase retail space, and he was told by City Manager Curtis Shook that very little could be done because the bonds had already been purchased by investors.

“It is very difficult to put the genie back in the bottle,” he said.

Gomez said the PD Building program was inherited  so they are trying to make the best out of what they can do.

Carlos Valenzuela, Chamber president, who has been a vocal opponent of the proposed use of the building, said  “After looking at the contract, it appears our goose is already cooked.”

“I just don’t believe this project works. It needs an anchor that it doesn’t have.  I don’t see a person who is going to make sure it works. It just looks like an extension of the library.

“The use is not in the best interest of the downtown retail community.”

“Having the Phelps Dodge building becoming the lounge of the community doesn’t sit  well,” said Business owner Luwana Diffie.

“I am disappointed. It appears we’re jumping into this because we have money to spend. We need to take a step back  and be creative with what can be done with this facility.”

“While we may have been caught because Cochise County backed out of the proposition for the building, that doesn’t mean we want to get caught with a White Elephant,” said Chamber Board member Kathleen Gomez.

At that point, Councilmember Bob Fernandez discussed the need for looking for professional help with the project, and the council concurred.

Background

This meeting  came about following a presentation by City Engineer Carlos de la Torre  on proposed uses of the building.

 The building was originally purchased by the city as lease space for county offices, in addition to possible classroom space for Cochise College and/or the University of Arizona South.

When the economy made a downturn, the county possibility fell by the wayside.

In January 2008, the city received $3 million in GADA funds for the Government Center and to make improvements to City Hall. The city is required by bond covenant to spend these funds within three years.

The city had also worked with city and business leaders and the University of Arizona to come up with a plan for the center, but the new uses of the building are different than those discussed with the University of Arizona.

The new plan presented by the city staff calls for the building to be turned into a community and youth center featuring conference and meeting rooms, small offices, display space for a museum, a reading library, chamber space and a multipurpose room, along with space for computers, video games and stage.

There had been discussion of using the second floor for additional meeting space and turning it into a ballroom-type facility.

Total project cost is $3,063,196, but De la Torre believes the price could be as low as $2.25 million because recent bids have been coming in 30 to 40 percent lower than anticipated.

 

Comments

    Francisco wrote on Oct 6, 2009 10:27 PM:

    " The community of Douglas is well aware of Mayor Gomez insecurities and inconsistancies. Gomez and his daughter have been against the Port of Entry improvements from the start. This is a common international approved site. An opportunity for Douglas to excel and produce better neighboring commerce with our sister city of Agua Prieta. Where does our majority of the six million dollars in sale tax derive from? Douglas exist because of our relationship with Agua Prieta and northern Sonora. Douglas has lost the opportunity of the Port of Entry improvement monies because of Gomez. These improvement monies were given to other towns such as Nogales, San Luis and Sasabe. Read all about it in the Daily Star. What a big mistake!! Gomez lacks diplomacy especially negotiating in international trade.
    The Mayor and Council are stuck on what to do with the PD building. Can we trust the Mayor and Council? Maybe they will come up with a taco business or a second hand store or maybe they will vote to demolish the building. There is no vision or creativity among the Mayor and Council. How can the people of Douglas help? Attend the Council meetings and voice your opinons and pressure these old goats to do some research without hiring outside our city. That is money thrown away! We have qualified personnel in City Hall. Gomez,trust your personel. I don't know if you can trust any of your councilmen or for that matter yourself. Listen and learn and stop bad mouthing the previous Mayor and Council, that is poor ethics. "

    Art wrote on Sep 30, 2009 5:25 PM:

    " Youth center or programs would make wonders, and yes agree, our kids need a youth center, move the Rec. Center there and have sponsors help you to maintain!! "

    Just WONDERFUL wrote on Sep 30, 2009 12:19 PM:

    " Good economics makes terrible politics. Good politics makes terrible economics. That said, how much did the city spend (of our money) before it decided outside help and “research” was required? Who does that? Bond’s were bought by investors, yet our town refuses to invest in itself by offering incentives to attract new businesses; tax deferrals, low interest loans, renovation assistant, etc. Our downtown looks pathetic. Very poor presentation. It doesn't have to be that way. We’re all about getting grants. Hand outs. How about we offer incentives to attract businesses to show we believe in our town? This generates jobs, which generate tax revenue which generate more benefit for all. IN THAT ORDER. We need something that will generate revenue not drain it. There's a reason why Douglas continues to be a small town. My kids refuse to come back to Douglas b/c it offers nothing. I’m at that stage. "

    Leroy wrote on Sep 30, 2009 11:33 AM:

    " Many years back the City was offered that building for $1, they said no thank you. Many years foward they bought it for more than $1,(>$250,000) and now they don't know what to do with it.
    Many years back the City new they should not be in the business of buying property.
    A couple of years back the City was dancing with the County about a Gov't building, and now the County doesn't want to dance. The City is stuck with a building and grant money's to spend on this building. Why don't they just make it City offices,they are running out of room. "

    To Ricky wrote on Sep 30, 2009 7:55 AM:

    " Many organizations have worked hard to find things for the youth in the community, with not a lot of success. A big part of the problem is that parents don't seem to care very much what their kids are, or are not doing. "

    Again wrote on Sep 30, 2009 7:48 AM:

    " To Jay Dee, if you had attended any of the meetings you would have found out where this money is coming from, and the restrictions the council has regarding how the money and building can be used. "

    Again wrote on Sep 30, 2009 7:45 AM:

    " To Ernie, a Boys and Girls club requires that the non profit have $250,000 to $280,000 in cash in the bank, and a building, to begin. Many have looked into a Boys and Girls club, but the money always gets in the way. Most people in this community don't want to participate in anything, much less support a huge endeavor like this. "

    Got milk..... wrote on Sep 29, 2009 11:18 PM:

    " A teen center would be good concept. Only question is "Who would enforce the dress code?" It's bad enough that you have children attending our schools dressed more like prostitudes and thugs. If the DUSD doesn't care, what makes you think the city would get involved? Look at the city weeds, trash, stray dogs. It seems as though the city just doesn't care. "

    Heres a thought wrote on Sep 29, 2009 7:21 PM:

    " I suggest that you make it into a Douglas Animal Care Center. This would take in the dogs and cats that are in need of better care. Maybe the city could put the kids that are on probation in there to do some community service. Since the building is quite large, part of it could be used for the youth in Douglas that don't have after school care. They could go there for help with their homework, something to eat, and for someone that cares. Our community needs both. "

    Voter wrote on Sep 28, 2009 4:28 PM:

    " Bottom-line is: We have this asset, how do we make the best use of it? We survey community needs and meet them in a cost effective manner that satisfies our city’s most immediate and pressing needs.

    The median income for a family in Douglas is below $25,000. The incomes of the people interviewed in this article are astronomical in comparison.
    This lack of context virtually prohibits them from rationalizing true community needs.

    Michael Gomez needs to be honest and stop acting surprised. He was a member of the city council when the decision to make the purchase was approved. "

    T wrote on Sep 24, 2009 8:10 PM:

    " It was a white elephant when the city got it! How no one recognized that is beyond belief. The former City manager is sitting back in his chair counting his money, laughing at how idiotic the city was to buy it. The city should stay out of the Real Estate business. "

    Ricky wrote on Sep 24, 2009 10:17 AM:

    " I can defenetly see it as a youth center, we need the youth to be involved with our community not going across the line to look for the wrong entertainment "

    Ernie wrote on Sep 24, 2009 1:26 AM:

    " What could be done is a Boys and Girls Club being that Douglas has limited recreational activites for youth. "

    Jay Dee wrote on Sep 23, 2009 5:46 PM:

    " And now we are paying someone else to look for something to do with the building??? How much is that going to cost... And were is the money coming from....Makes me wonder? "

    Jay Dee wrote on Sep 23, 2009 5:45 PM:

    " I guess with the City going into the "Realestate Business" wasn't such a good idea.... They have a building and nothing they can do with it.. When is the city going to learn to use the money wisely and cover expenses for Public Safety (Police and Fire) instead of buying more property. The response time for DPD and DFD are longer and longer due to man power... Invest in more officers and firefighters, that way at least the city gets it's money worth.... Just a thought. "

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