to chuckshouldgo wrote on Jan 27, 2010 2:00 PM:

" GET A LIFE. AND EVERYONE ELSE WITH NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT MR. HOYACK. GET A LIFE!!!!! "




hello wrote on Jan 26, 2010 8:20 PM:

" You people act like if this is the end of the world! You people should get a life, get a job. With all the other bad things that go on in that town, you are worried about what people think of this! OMG!!!! It's just like Douglas people to backstab each other! "




looking in wrote on Jan 25, 2010 8:05 AM:

" KK: What are you thinking, people who pay taxes, have children or just plain citizens have a right to know and to voice their thoughts and opinion. Who are you? You must be one of the board members that "DEMAND" people do what you direct them to without an explanations or questions asked. You need to go somewhere where there is no democracy.
KK wrote on Jan 19, 2010 7:33 PM:

" For all those people that back pettie up. And do not work for the district should just keep your mouth shut. NOW HE KNOWS how it feels like to be at home. He has put a lot of staff under in house arrest. SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW. DONT SAY NOTHING.The borad did the right thing "




citizen wrote on Jan 22, 2010 10:28 PM:

" I still want to know how hoyack is allowed to micro manage a school district on cochise college's dime. Can someone please answer that... and furthermore the hoyack's need to quit being such hypocrits and also quit saying they are doing "Gods work" their not doing Gods work they are doing their own MESS "




A Stevenson Parent wrote on Jan 22, 2010 11:04 AM:

" Here is one thing that happened at Stevenson regarding the ELL program. All students whose parents listed them on the school application as bi-lingual were automatically placed into the ELL program. During the beginning of the year, there were several meetings to discuss the new changes to the ELL. Including new segregated classes for several hours of the day. During those meetings, many parents objected to their children being put in that program as those children were fluent in English already. Parents were advised that they could opt out of the program and that forms would be brought in during the following meeting for those who opted the drop. A large majority did so during the meetings, because they felt that this program would not benefit their children. These were open meetings held by the district in order to provide information to the parents. These were not designed to talk the parents out of the program. But by placing all students who can speak Spanish into this program without regard to their English abilities gave a poor reflection statistically on the need for the program. The majority of students at Stevenson primarily speak English and have Spanish as a secondary language. Perhaps Pettit was disappointed that there are educated people in this community who won't just blindly follow his words, but whatever the case may be... Stevenson parents questioned his authority and he seemingly does not take well to that and became vindictive. This was not a coup led by the Hoyacks. This was parents wanting the best education that their children can get from a public school. I thank the majority of the School Board for having the courage to stand up for the children. "




citizen wrote on Jan 21, 2010 1:57 AM:

" KK how can you tell the people of Douglas to keep our mouth shut when we pay your wages. The problem is that people keep their mouth shut and dont do anything about it. We need to hire someone that comes in and cleans house from the bottom up. Everyone in the district should have to reapply for their jobs for the the future of our kids. "




WOW wrote on Jan 20, 2010 7:01 PM:

" Just when you think the board cannot make more "idiotic" decisions, they appoint as our "interim administrator in charge" a person who just less then a month ago pulled a childish move and resigned her position. After Pettit was re-assigned she then rescinded this resignation for her own selfish reasons. Is this what the board considers loyalty? Ms. Bowley has shown her true egotistical, selfish face. Her resignation should be accepted and she also should be told to leave. She doesnt care about this district, Douglas and more importantly the kids of this District.

Go away Ms. Bowley and take your scheming pals with you - Evans and Doctor. While we are at it, lets get rid of Good also. "




Tired wrote on Jan 20, 2010 4:58 AM:

" Lets just stick with the facts. The three board members are not commenting publicly, the attorney general is investigating the boards violation of open meeting laws, this is the second superintendent brought in to make changes only to be run out of town havig to hire lawyers to defend themselves, the public can't comment at public meetings, we don't even know the condition of the district budget except the schools say they have no money, schools are by far the biggest portion of my property tax bill, we are spending a lot of money and time on this feud. I could go on.
Everyone please call the attorney general and ask him to get rid of these board members quickly before they bankrupt the district. As for all the people commenting in support of the board actions please explain how they can make no comments publicly or explain their actions publicly. They owe us that much. Apparently Rivera and Lopez don't even want to turn over their e-mails. There are no excuses for this behavior.
Please don't complain about one sided reporting when one side(the side with an obligation to answer to the voters) isn't commenting at all.
How can you start termination proceeding on a superintendent so shortly after hiring him and then not give specific, concrete reasons why and not expect to get sued. Of course it was personal. Why not open it up and discuss the personal stuff that led to this. The letting go of board members wives. Other wise we are just dancing around the truth misspending a lot of money. "




KK wrote on Jan 19, 2010 7:33 PM:

" For all those people that back pettie up. And do not work for the district should just keep your mouth shut. NOW HE KNOWS how it feels like to be at home. He has put a lot of staff under in house arrest. SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW. DONT SAY NOTHING.The borad did the right thing. "




Bulldog from Douglas wrote on Jan 19, 2010 7:13 PM:

" Happy, all you are worried about is how calm and peaceful things are in the district office? District office staff you are being very selfish to the kids you should be ashamed of yourself. Board members move on everyone else has. If people notice closely it’s always the same ones that cause the trouble, so if anyone was waiting for a raise this year or anytime soon well thank the Board members and District staff for not getting one. WAY TO GO MAIN OFFICE “Business Dept.” "




Chris wrote on Jan 19, 2010 4:44 PM:

" It is humiliating for our community to react uncaring and tactless towards any official. However, leadership is what we need in our district. Leaders should remain neutral starting with facts and following equal application of policy.
It is apparent the board did not apply progressive discipline in writing. They should have put an end to unacceptalbe behavior early on by following a policy that requires verbal warning (showing concern but no anger), written warning, suspension and then termination. The goal is that nobody's surprised when you do the deed. I feel you can skip the normal process and fire employees immediately if endanger security (threatening violence), safety (refusing to wear protective equipment, and school property (an angry outburst that damages chairs, desks, computer, etc.
I feel that Mr. Hoyack has been disrespectful, angry, and has taken it personal and feels Mr. Pettit pushed him too far. Mr. Hoyack has not followed policy to put others on a confident ground and has also been inconsistent. He should have never shown anger. As a community member I am not sure what Pettit has done so wrong since these problems should remain confidential. "




RMacMurtrie wrote on Jan 18, 2010 3:34 PM:

" I don't follow the school board problems in Douglas for just this reason; everyone knows what needs to be done and no one will step up to the plate to do it! My advise to all of you is this: get involved with your child's education; get to know your child's teachers, principals, school secretaries, nurses, maintenance staff; volunteer at your child's school; find the good things at your school and support them! There are terrific teachers, principals, coaches,secretaries, nurses, bus drivers, custodians, cafeteria workers and other staff at our schools and we never hear anything about the great job they do with little or no resources! I am sick of hearing what is wrong with Douglas Schools! What are YOU doing to make your child's educational experience better? "




Carry On wrote on Jan 17, 2010 9:01 PM:

" Thank goodness we have great principals who are holding the schools together. We have dedicated teachers who continue to do their jobs which is "to teach." We have workers at every level who are taking care of our district, from the ladies who serve breakfast to our kids, to the nurses who care of them, the people in district offices that continue to run, the maintenance workers who take care of the buildings and the bus drivers who continue to do their work all while the "leaders" bicker and bring shame to DUSD. They do such a disservice to all these good people who have only the needs of our children as their purpose. Too bad the same cannot be said of the leadership and all these people who write hateful comments. Put you ugly words aside and support the DUSD employees who give their all to your children! "




disgusted wrote on Jan 17, 2010 5:15 PM:

" What about the kids did we forget them as you board members have. Thats to bad your behavior is so unexcepted....my child go to middle school and has to share text book theres not enough for the student, but we had enough to pay a person to come in investigate and find nothing.....THANK YOU I LOVE that my taxes are or went to that instead of something good....YOU BOARD MEMBERS ARE WASTING OUR TAX PAYER TIME AND MONEY.....THINK OF THE KIDS INSTEAD OF PATHETIC HOYACK AND HIS REDICULOUS WIFE.... THERE POOR KIDS WHAT AN EMBARRESMENT THEY ARE TO OUR COMMUNITY... "




happy wrote on Jan 17, 2010 3:44 PM:

" have you noticed how calm and relaxed things are within the district now? employees can now go to work and actually work - there is no fear of earl! thank you 3 board members who listened to the many complaints and who read the report. the other 2 members must have read something else other than mr. cooper's report. "




thank you wrote on Jan 17, 2010 3:40 PM:

" i am a dusd employee, parent, taxpayer,and community member. thank you mrs. lopez, mr. rivera, and mr. hoyack for listening to the many complaints/issues involving mr. pettit, mr. schuerman, mr. muecke, and ms. good (along with a couple of members of hr staff). yes, way too much time has been spent on the earl pettit situation but it was necessary. earl pettit was responsible for the running of the district while ultimately answering to the board. he spent the majority of his time however, threatening, intimidating, harrassing, and retaliating against, not only employees but students. what affected many the most was the lack of services for special needs students. why was he and dara logan not held accountable for that?! how can people still support him; how can susan kramer and mario ramos continue to deny that the man has done nothing wrong? to treat employees unprofessionally and reduce them to the point of tears constantly is demeaning; to forbid a parent from volunteering at her childs' school is unheard of; to retaliate against anyone who has the courage to defend themselves against him is CRAZY! earl pettit has caused nothing but problems for the district. teachers and their aids, not to mention parents, are responsible for the academic success of the students NOT EARL PETTIT! his attempts to take credit for the labels of the schools is ridiculous; why not be a man and take responsibility for the terrible things he has done to our district and community instead? earl pettit, you have spent much time filing lawsuits and in touch with the media while 'on the clock' for the district. don't suppose you actually took time off from work to meet with your lawyer or kgun 9 - surely that was done directly from your office. and still, according to you, you have done nothing wrong. please stop playing the victim! "




district employee wrote on Jan 17, 2010 3:26 PM:

" mario ramos as school board president?! whose idea of a sick joke was that? mario and susan, why can't either one of you see that earl pettit has used both of you from the minute you turned in your paperwork to be a school board member?! do you honestly think he has your best interests in mind? the man is using you! do you think that once he is gone and hopefully super far away from here, that he will be in touch, continue to be your buddy? will he continue to dictate what you say as board members? open your eyes people, the man is using you! remember, he will be gone from here; unless you plan on going with him, you two are the ones that will remain here known as 'earl pettit's pawns!' "




dusd employee wrote on Jan 17, 2010 2:21 PM:

" Mario Ramos and Susan Kramer, you should both resign from dusd board before you make bigger fools of yourselves! Mario, you cannot say anything that makes sense even when it is in writing in front of you unless you have rehearsed something written for you by Earl Pettit. Susan Kramer, you are a very rude and unprofessional person. Your behavior at the meetings is appalling! Your allegations are nothing more than unfounded lies! You seem to be more interested in being in contact with kgun 9 than being concerned about the 'big brother' atmosphere that Earl Pettit created pretty much from when he first was hired by dusd. It is a shame he never cared about being a superintendent; all he wanted was total control over dusd. Remember, everyone answers to someone; Earl, your bosses were the board! You all deny having any contact with each other yet it appears that your only friends are each other. Earl is seen with Susan and their families at various events in town and Earl is seen with Mario and his wife enjoying a meal at a local restaurant. Yes, board members do have a life outside of the board room but unless you can honestly say the 3 of you do not discuss anything related to the mess Earl created, do not go judging nor criticizing the rest of the board members! "




open your eyes people wrote on Jan 17, 2010 2:12 PM:

" those of you who do not attend meetings or watch on the internet have only a one-sided story to follow. no matter how much kgun 9 denies it, they get their info from earl pettit & wanna-be pres ramos & rude kramer! pettit & the so-called reporter waldman are constantly talking at the meetings when the board is in executive session. kgun 9 reports that they have not received info from pettit....what a LIE! pettit himself has been seen by many handing paperwork to waldman - everything he gives to the board, he gives to kgun 9. only other person seen talking to kgun 9 is nava - you know, the guy with way too much time on his hands! he should be embarrassed for 'demanding' the investigator's report before it was even ready! and here he claims to be so educated. an education is great but it also takes some common sense! kgun 9 is a joke along with pettit, kramer, ramos, and nava.....and everyone that supports pettit - you know who you are - good, quinonez, gastelum, schuerman, mueck, along with the so-called 'coaches' who get stipends quite often! "




Clean House wrote on Jan 16, 2010 8:37 PM:

" Here are two ideas:

1. Put someone as Interim as Supt. that will go in and clean up the mess.. get rid of: Bowley, Evans, Good, Logan, Doctor, Schuerman.

2. Recall all board members (ALL) but this time, lets have some people run so 3 of them just do not just get appointed.

In other words, if you are going to complain on blogs people, then put up or shut up. Run for the board... for the sake of the kids. "




Objective observer wrote on Jan 16, 2010 3:11 PM:

" I have tried to be objective but at this point have decided the evidence is overwhelming and the secrecy is even more telling. It looks like Hoyack, Rivera, and Lopez undoubtedly violated open meeting laws, are well aware of it, and continue(d) to do it after it was obvious. I don't know how Anne Carl knows how to bring a reassignment letter to the meeting otherwise. There had to be backroom discussions. It also seems to be extremely personal not professional. It truly is disgraceful.
To all three I would like to say: We may not be the most educated or sophisticated community but we are not stupid and deserve a lot better. You answer to us. How can you not comment on this. Please explain your actions to us.
These three better not ask us to pay for their attorneys now. They don't comment about this, they don't answer to us, don't allow public comments at their meetings, and don't ask voters in conversation for our opinions now they better not ask us to pay for their attorneys. They probably will. The law or statue is ARS-38-431.07
Considering they have the three votes they may try this. I hope they are removed from office before. "




Bulldog from another state wrote on Jan 16, 2010 10:09 AM:

" To the citizens of Douglas: Has anyone from Douglas filed a complaint with the Arizona Attorney General's Office? Here is the link to the complaint form: azag.gov/SGO/OML_ComplaintForm.pdf "




Taxpayer wrote on Jan 16, 2010 8:57 AM:

" All thos thousands spend on a report, yet we the parents get requests for classoom supplies needed: copy paper spiral notebooks, tissue boxes and paper towels. Believe that paper towels. Come Douglas residents/parents and students we are paying for a report that shows nothing on Petite. But yet Hoyack thinks he is untouchable along ith his follower, Lopez and Rivera. And guess who paying for this... we the residents. Maybe Hoyack should riemburse the money!!!!!! "




worried in Douglas wrote on Jan 15, 2010 7:00 PM:

" I guess the message here is: Don't fire a board member's wife or potential board members wife. Don't worry about the students or taxpayers money.
Geez! I'd hate to work with these people. "




Legal Beagle wrote on Jan 15, 2010 5:30 PM:

" For the sake of the students of Douglas Schools it is time for all of us to write letters or e-mail Attorney General Terry Goddard and the federal Justice Department to have them investigate open meeting law violations and get the true story on what happened at Stevenson. "




t wrote on Jan 15, 2010 4:54 PM:

" KGUN9 is being fed only certain information, I believe primarily by Kramer and Pettit. We know that Kramer called them when she believed the investigators report would be released, only to waste their time since the report wasn't ready yet. She was on the news that night and they said that she had called them. When it comes time that the whole story can be released, I am sure it will be quite a doozy. Pettit has openly shown that he can be vindictive and not always truthful. We can not trust him to be in office where he has the potential to wreak havoc towards the district. Not saying that he would, but why take a chance. "




To finally wrote on Jan 15, 2010 3:59 PM:

" You exemplify the hate from the people who are behind this whole mess. Thank you for revealing for all to see who is next on your personal agenda. "




Truth seeker wrote on Jan 15, 2010 2:05 PM:

" I thought we still lived in the USA!
Due Process!
Douglas wake up and put people on the school board those who seek the right agenda, STUDENTS! Where did this community go wrong? Students are the sole purpose of education not one's own agenda.

Bullies would be prosecuted if they where students. Hoyack cronies should be held personally liable for all fees incurred by the district when the truth comes out. Since those of us who choose to see the students come first know this is just a witch hunt. "




Finally wrote on Jan 15, 2010 12:22 PM:

" It's about time that Pettit got a taste of his own medacine. Those of us who work or have worked for the district know how horrible it is and has been since he came to the district. KGUN 9 has only said lies about Mr. Hoyack, Mr. Rivera, and Mrs. Lopez. By the end of this ordeal, KGUN 9 will have to apoligize to them. Hats of to them for standing up for the truth. Now lets see what Mary Good and Nick Schuerman will do with out Pettit. These two should also be sent home, but with out pay!!! Kramer and Ramos, open your eyes!!! "




HoyackMustGo wrote on Jan 15, 2010 11:01 AM:

" Hey, hey, hoe, hoe CHUCK HOYACK HAS GOT TO GO!!!

Hey, hey, hoe, hoe CHUCK HOYACK HAS GOT TO GO!!!

Hey, hey, hoe, hoe CHUCK HOYACK HAS GOT TO GO!!!

Hey, hey, hoe, hoe CHUCK HOYACK HAS GOT TO GO!!!

Hey, hey, hoe, hoe CHUCK HOYACK HAS GOT TO GO!!! "




Wondering wrote on Jan 15, 2010 10:50 AM:

" To the citizens of Douglas, the fact that no comments have been posted only begins to speak to the fact that we are tired of the nonsense and the children are not being the main driver for the majority of our Board Members. How sad!! "




Unnamed wrote on Jan 15, 2010 8:38 AM:

" Kudos to Ms. Kramer and Mr. Ramos for rejecting the inappropriate move to house arrest Mr. Petit. Shame on the Douglas community for their support to run Mr. Petit out of town. Douglas is already a struggling community combined with such negative press and the inability to accept newcomers into the fold, how in the world do the leaders of the community expect to bring any new businesses into the area when the foundation of the community, our school system, and the future leaders of the community, the students, are at war with any NEW thing or person that comes to town. This move by the school board president will cost the school district millions of dollars before the end to this fiasco is done. That money would have been better spent on schools, teachers, and students.

Mr. Petit, if you read these comments, write a book! "




TaxPayer wrote on Jan 15, 2010 8:37 AM:

" My God! When is this going to end. I guess payback are a ....! You three aren't thinking about the students/kids, even less about us tax payers. Thank you Ms. Krammer you are right, Education comes first. "




Farley wrote on Jan 15, 2010 6:20 AM:

" Chuck Hoyack also needs to be sent home, he has cost the District quite a bit of money with his personal vendetta. Whatever the board decides, please do not bring back a certain, retired, micromanaging superintendent who left the District in this 'sorry state.' Wasn't Mr. Pettit her choice? "




embarrassed in Tucson wrote on Jan 14, 2010 8:47 PM:

" I am tired of being asked about the childish behavior of the Douglas School Board. I still brag about being from Douglas I just make it a point to say I don't vote there anymore. I just pay property taxes.
If Terry Goddard wants votes from Douglas in his run for governor he should investigate this and remove Hoyack, Rivera, and Lopez from office if KGUN is correct in its reporting. The arrogance and disrespect for their constituients of these three to not answer to the public is disgraceful. Don't hide behind attorney-client privilege while spending taxpayer money on what appears to be personal vendettas.
If you want him fired tell us why specifically before you expose us to potentially very expensive litigation.
I would rather you use tax money to buy textbooks, allow kids to play sports, or a whole bunch of other productive investments not pay our superintendent to watch soap operas, make payments on a lawyers mercedes, or to massage board members egos. "




Due Process wrote on Jan 14, 2010 8:08 PM:

" I'm not on either one's side here but REALLY......Where is the DUE PROCESS??????????

I am a religions follower of this saga and from the agendas and minutes that I've studied, I only have 2 words........DUE PROCESS!!!!!! "




Just a community member wrote on Jan 14, 2010 8:04 PM:

" Hang in there Pettit. There are a lot of people on your side here! Chucky's little cronies will not prevail. The truth shall set you free! "




tired wrote on Jan 14, 2010 3:59 PM:

" Charles Hoyack is going to cost this school district alot of money are put kids are going to pay for it. "

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