R.I.P. Carlos wrote on Apr 21, 2011 2:05 AM:

" OH YEA AND I FORGTO ONE MORE VERY IMPORTANT THING, ANOTHER FACT WHY HIS FAMILY N FRIENDS ARE SEEKING JUSTICE, IS BECUZ CARLOS WAS NOT ONLY SHOT 3 TIMES N BACK BUT ALSO IN ARM, THEN WAS HANDCUFFED N TOLD TO GET THE EFF UP, AND ABUSED IN THE WORST WAYS WHILE SUFFERING N FIGHTING FOR HIS LIFE, THEY WAITED HOURS TO GET HIM SOME HELP, IN FACT OTHER PPL ACROSS THE BORDER IN MEXICO WERE TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF 911 BEFORE THE BP EVER DID ANYTHING, HE COULD OF BEEN ALIVE TODAY, BUT NO, THE BP WHO SHOT HIM DECIDED THAT THAT JUST WASNT ENUF! NOW U TELL ME, HOW THE F*C WOULD U FEEL?????? THAT MY FRIENDS IS SICK IN ITSELF.... OH AND LETS NOT FORGET, THE "DRUGS" IN HIS CAR? HMMM, NOPE NOT THIS TIME, NO DRUGS! THE REPORT DOES SUGGEST THERE WERE DRUGS FOUND, BUT NONE WERE ACTUALLY COLLECTED AND TAKEN TO THE BP STATION. NOW IF U STILL CANT UNDERSTAND WTF IS GOING ON THEN IDK MABEY U PPL HAVE LOOSE SCREWS UP ABOVE. GOD BLESS! "




R.I.P. Carlos wrote on Apr 21, 2011 1:57 AM:

" First of all, im soo dam disgusted by all you people that have the nerve, the heart, the guts to say all these negatives n cruel things about carlos and his family! u type of ppl make me sick, thats why u dirty pieces of white sh*t get ur a$$e$ kicked, and ur kids get picked on at school, its ppl like YOU! second, ive read through alot of these comments and im surprised at how many of u idi*t piece of shi*s wrote stuff that wasnt even true! how funny, i thought to myself wow u guys must be hearing voices or something becuz 1. it was proven already that carlos didnt throw ANY rocks! 2. the illegal immigrant that was said to be in his vehicle, was not! oh yea, and if he was so illegal, why would this guy be in jail in the united states for other charges?in fact, carlos never even met the guy. im going to remain anonymous but i will say this, i have plenty information on this case that are actual facts in carlos's death, and i can tell u guys this much, what ur reading on the news isnt true. the border patrol is already being thoroughly investigated becuz of 3 other teenage shootings similar to this one, in this year alone. for hmmm lets guess, " ROCK THROWING ".....u have to realize the border patrol has to do everything possible to protect themselves from law suits and getting killed for killing carlos. and to say these things about his family, is extremely disrespectful of u ppl, u hypacrits know very well that if it were ur son or daughter, ud be doing the exact same. get ur white heads out of ur a$$e$ for once and be real!!!carlos was a really good guy, happily engaged to an amazing girl, loved to play his guitar for his family, he also was in sports, in fact on a team, if u retards knew some true facts u would have known that when he was killed, his team won a trophy and brought for him at the spot he was killed. god bless all of carlos's family! and lets keep seeking justice for him, u guys have alot more ppl behind u than u might know. R.I.P. mijo! "




i say wrote on Apr 8, 2011 9:37 PM:

" i say all who engage in criminal activity should be punished to the full extent of the law. If they are killed while commiting criminal acts, TOO BAD!! "




To Christina wrote on Apr 7, 2011 9:42 PM:

" Please don't tell me you are serious!

OK you stand there and let someone throw rocks at your head and see what happens. If they are not deadly, why is it a method of capital punishment in the Middle East. And we condemn them for this type of punishment; but it's OK because he's protecting the border from terrorists, crime and those drugs that many soo cravingly want.

Take a drink of reality "




k9zombie wrote on Apr 7, 2011 11:53 AM:

" I gew up in Douglas but I have been gone for over a decade. It saddens me to see what it has become. There is an obvious empathy for the criminal element in this town. This man made several poor choices that led to his demise. Mexico is a failed state. The violence we see on the southside will carry over to our community if we continue to condone this behavior. I would never think of raising my children in Douglas. It is not the great town it used to be. "




Tax Payer wrote on Apr 6, 2011 10:11 PM:

" We the parents are the teachers, we must always teach right from wrong, always accept the good and always question the wrong. How we deny the wrong and accept as well. Remember money, does not buy everything. The boy was doing wrong. I prayer for all involved. And I thank all PUBLIC SAFETY Personnel for wearing a Badge. Amen. "




Concerned old man. wrote on Apr 6, 2011 7:10 PM:

" What a crook of crap,For all those people who think rocks don't hurt,go outside and throw one up in the air, and stand under it.To all those that cry for this guy, one less worthless dope smuggler on the streets. If he didn't die here, the cartel would have dealt with him instead. So who cares if another poor smuggler dies.I'm sure the family will try to sue the crap out of the BP, but good luck. They don't deserve nothing.Maybe next time they'll think twice, before doing illegal things. Get a job like normal people, and prosper like everybody else in this world. lazy bunch of parasites. Kill'em all. let god sort them out. "




To mad wrote on Apr 6, 2011 6:46 PM:

" How many incidents did carlos have with law enforcement prior to this? He was no angel and you all know that. All these people that are blameing the agent blame your selfs. Where were you when he was getting in trouble. Everyone knew what he was doing and no one tried to stop him or teach him others ways in life. just a tought why dont you blame the guy that hired him to smuggle the drugs!!!! "




to MAD wrote on Apr 6, 2011 2:56 PM:

" For starters, this isn't about race. Its about drug smugglers against cops. I don't even know the race of the Agent involved, do you? I am indeed a good person- I don't use or smuggler drugs, I work legally with long hours to pay my bills, I have children who get good grades and play sports, I spend time with my family encouraging them to live a good life and I don't assault other people.
Carlos did have drugs and an illegal immigrant in his truck. If he wasn't doing something illegal, why was he fleeing? Why were his buddies there with a ladder to help him cross? oh that was just a lucky coincidence huh?He was an American, why was he trying to illegally cross into Mexico during his flight from cops? Mexico has immigration laws too that require entering at the Port, not going over the fence. Carlos made his choices that day, he is not the law abiding angel you want people to believe. If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at Carlos and his family for being drug smugglers and putting themselves in a situation that took Carlos' life. "




MAD wrote on Apr 3, 2011 10:47 AM:

" okay first of all carlos did not have any thing ILLEGAL in his car!!!! okay ? the border patrols are just trying to make up stuff so that they dont look bad ! and also get it through your heads that carlos didnt throw any rocks at the border patrol, may be another person did but
NOT carloss !!! , carloss wasnt a teenager but he was young and had a whole life ahead of him, how can you people even compare rocks to bullets !!! the dumb
RACIST border patrol could've done alot of other things, like tazer him or something.... but no... just because he was hispanic and the border patrol "THOUGHT" he was an illegall he decided to shoot him THREE times in the back! wat a coward, real men dont shoot from the back!!,, Put yourself's in carlos family and friends shoes,, okayy!! how would you white peole feel if a hispanic killed your friend or son!!! yea you guyss ufffff would be making a big deal about it! and you know what thatss what we are gonna do! justice is what we are gonna get for carloss!! OF COURSE CARLOS WAS ONLY THINKING ABOUT HIMSELF AT THE TIME !!!! IM SURE YOU WOULDVE DONE THE SAME THING SO STOP ACTING LIKE YOUR A GOOD PERSSON OKAY NO ONE IS A GOOD PERSON SO JUST KEEP YOUR STUPID COMMENTSS TO YOUR SELF!! R.I.P carlos "




David wrote on Apr 1, 2011 9:54 PM:

" Yep just as I thought . You can pretty much tell what side of the law youre one is on by the comments. Let some lawless little man throw rocks at your head and youll be seeing why rocks are considered a deadly weapon. Seems Stephen in the Bible was stoned to death, and some women in Afghanistan were recently stoned also. Seems they died from the little rocks. Too bad the choice to live a lawless life caused such a tragic end to a life that was originally meant to be an image of God. When are these kids going to learn that we are created in the image of God. When you choose smuggling you step into the world ao lawlessness and viloence. Sad. "




flower wrote on Apr 1, 2011 12:47 PM:

" I belive that Carlos shouldn’t have been killed..I think that there where plenty of agents on the scene and no one had the gutts to jump him to arrest.. instead being coward just pull the gun and start shooting. I believe if someone is doing something illegal they should have a JUDGE take care of the sentencing?????I think Carlos could have been alive too maybe if he had been arrested???or maybe if the agent would of shot him once???? or maybe if one out of 10 or so officers could of jump him..i also think Carlos could have done some jail time??? ya and Carlos does sound like he’s a big DOPE CARTEL with only 48lbs of weed plzzzzzzzzz "




You were there wrote on Apr 1, 2011 7:41 AM:

" It is always BP's fault.... Never the guy who fled (at high speeds and put you the citizens of Douglas in harm’s way) from BP and ran with dope back to Mexico.

If someone throws rock at a Douglas Police officer or a Federal officer (like BP), then they have the right to use any all force needed.

But, since all of you were there and saw everything that happened, you can make all the comments you like… "




My Comment wrote on Mar 31, 2011 9:25 PM:

" How does anyone know how you would react in the same situation? It's so easy to accuse and say it's only rocks...I have a distant cousin who went to prison for killing someone with a rock. In the end, this young man, 'lived by the sword and he died by the sword'. It's a mad world of drug thugs and drug users. "




seabass wrote on Mar 31, 2011 2:26 PM:

" Why shouldn't he be shot? Another drug mule who would willingly run over the border patrol agent or kill him to avoid arrest. We need to stop playing around. The guy was breaking into the United States with prohibited substances. "




Chito wrote on Mar 31, 2011 10:19 AM:

" The criminal here is the kid NOT the BP agent. Had he not thrown rocks he wouldn't have gotten shot. Rocks ARE weapons and there is no excuse for his behavior. There are also reports that this is not the first time that his family had been under the federal microscope. Your character is only questioned when your character is questionable. Douglas BP The community stands behind you! "




Wack wrote on Mar 30, 2011 2:05 PM:

" Very sad situation here, I have read different declaration posted about what happened, one says rocks were thrown by LaMadrid, other says that LaMadrid hit the BP's car, other says LaMAdrid was about ti hit the BP officer with the car. other says the guy on the fence (Not LaMadrid) was throwing rocks. LaMadrid was a delinquent? Yes. deserved to be gunfire shooted. absolutely NOT, I understand the BP officer is taking care of the border, but the measure he took, was not smart, someone died... "




Rodeo wrote on Mar 30, 2011 7:09 AM:

" I agree that the newspaper is slanted in their headline. He was a drug runner heading for Mexico, not some innocent Douglas resident.I'm for the Border Patrol!! "




Ram wrote on Mar 30, 2011 2:59 AM:

" If you go to school and get a job instead of being a drug dealer you will not get shot. Parents fault "




Kris wrote on Mar 29, 2011 9:03 PM:

" EVERYONE THT IS AGREE WITH THE BORDER PATORL.. U GUYS ARE REALLY HEARTLESS PEOPLE U SHOULD NEVER EVER JUDGE PEOPLE .. THAT BORDER PATROL SHOULD HAVE NEVER DONE THAT. COME ON THERE ROCKS LIKE THEY SAY A GUN SHOT IS WORSE THEN ROCKS ... FIRE TAT BORDER PATROL THT KID DIDNT HAVE NO ARMER FOR THE BORDER PATROL TO SHOOT.. RIP CARLOS WE LOVE YOU AND MISS "




christina wrote on Mar 29, 2011 8:58 PM:

" WAT THT B.P. WAS WRONG SHOOTING THT BOY HE DIDNT DESERVE TO SHOT!!!!!!... WT THEY SHOULD DO IS FIRE THT B.P. ..WT DID THEY DO TO THE BORDER PATROL SUSP FOR WORK..WHAT HECK IS THT TAKIN A BOYS LIFE AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND NO ROCKS ARENT CONSIDED DEADLY ..!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RIP CARLOS WE WILL MISS YOU!!!! "




Blah wrote on Mar 29, 2011 7:23 PM:

" A rock or any other object IS CONSIDERED A THREAT! Hence why a boxer's hands are considered a weapon, rocks are just the same. The reaction to kill someone was unnecessary, however, this kid shouldn't have ran. What kind of stupidity is that? Should we blame the BP for doing his job? Um no. Should we blame the kid for reacting by running? Um no. There's a reason why BPs are hired and why drugs are illegal. Next time people are quick to judge, what would you do if rocks were thrown at you??? "




joegUSA wrote on Mar 29, 2011 3:10 PM:

" An adult drug smugler with about $100,000 of dope, fled recklessly at a high rate of speed with complete disregard to others safety including hispanic American children. He fled to the border to escape justice. His gangster homeboys threw stones large enough at the BP that they believed the BP would be so injured being hit by the stones they would stop chasing the gangster. Well now this gangster will not repeat this crime. Dont do the crime if you cant do the time! "




james wrote on Mar 29, 2011 11:37 AM:

" upsetoverthis wrote "Once again those arrogant BP's firing without hesitation i never knew that a few rocks are actually enough of a reason to feel your life is in danger they could of just wounded him or popped his tires or something....
======================
Rocks can kill someone just as easy as a knife or a bullet, especially if the rock is big enough.
Which would you rather have, a dead drug runner, or a dead agent who was hit by a rock??? "




A BPs sister wrote on Mar 29, 2011 10:50 AM:

" Let me say that the way the BP's windshield looked it obviously wasn't a small rock. I'm not saying he deserved to die but a BP or any other officer must defend his life as well. A rock is a deadly weapon and if this young man was not killed he would be surely serving time for drug possesion, fleeing felon, and assaulting a federal agent with a deadly weapon. As a sister of a BP if you are stupid enough to throw a rock of that size then you've basically asked for it. Those of us who have nothing to fear don't run! Stop blaming the BP, he might be saving your kid from another drug dealer on the street! "




miguel wrote on Mar 29, 2011 7:42 AM:

" Hope they shoot ALL smuggler's...Maybe it would help the problem of corrupt Mexican's breaking our law's... "




Lets be real wrote on Mar 29, 2011 5:56 AM:

" I would say it is quite a feat to climb a ladder over a fence and be throwing rocks at the same time. Did this require four shots? What are rubber bullets for? Why are there tasers? There is more to this story than meets the eye. I am glad that there are cameras on the fence. Maybe the FBI will tell us what really happened. Even if he did have drugs, does that equal death? Even Loughner gets his day in court. "




B L wrote on Mar 29, 2011 12:01 AM:

" BP are really getting out of hand just shot this 19yr old because he was throwing rocks why kill him they could of shoot him on a leg and if he had trouble with the law who are we to judged do all of us parents know what are kids are doing behind are backs? He did not deserved to die this way, the BP that shot him will get away with it from justice of men but not from the justice of GOD "




Richman68 wrote on Mar 28, 2011 8:45 PM:

" Hey Monica, after the #RD SHOT, he STOPPED throwing rocks.
LAW ENFORCEMENT officers are trained to stop the threat. "




upset citizen wrote on Mar 28, 2011 4:57 PM:

" he felt threatened by the rocks thats why he shot him 3 times and in the BACK!!!!!!!!!! i hope something is done about this and is not just set aside like nothing ever happened....remember he was a US CITIZEN not an ILLEGAL "




TO DOUGLASRESIDENT wrote on Mar 28, 2011 2:32 PM:

" DOUGLASRESIDENT and all the ones who play Monday Morning Quarterback after something happes. What if it was your son or daughter who was about to get his or her head mashed in with a rock by a drug runner? Would you still feel the same way? JUST A THOUGHT! "




JS wrote on Mar 28, 2011 12:32 PM:

" Its a no win situation here we ask to be protected from the crime that's going on around our boarders but we lash out at those who are sent out to do the dirty work. The boy who was shot was trafficking people which is illegal!! Any way you spin it he was still breaking the law and yes he was throwing rocks but we've already seen the damage that can be done by the death of an agent. You either want to be protected or you don't, get your priority's straight. "




me wrote on Mar 28, 2011 1:39 AM:

" we miss u carlitos! we want justice! "




Truth wrote on Mar 28, 2011 1:04 AM:

" When all is said and done,and the investigation is complete no matter what the outcome will be. This young man was responsible for his own demise. All he simply had to do was pull over at the initial contact with DPD. He would still be alive today.

This young man obviously was no stranger to the business of narcotics and the death and destruction that business brings. He choose to run placing his well being and the well being of innocents at risk.

As for the BP agent, he had a job to do and he was placed in harms way based on that young mans actions. Now he will stand the investigation good or bad outcome.and carry this action with him through his natural life.

Douglas we need to pray for all who were involved. "




maria wrote on Mar 27, 2011 7:03 PM:

" This is a no brainer. The kid was shot for throwing rocks. A gun should be a weapon of honor not a weapon to kill. I suspect this could have been handled much differently. "




Lethal Force wrote on Mar 27, 2011 6:33 PM:

" Let's throw a few rocks at the heads of the people that claim Border Patrol is over-reacting. Lets see what a softball size rock does to your head when it is thrown at you and then hits you in the head. See what happens and then tell us if you have a right to defend yourself against someone throwing rocks.
A windshield is stronger than a head. You pick up a rock and throw it....that is a weapon...deadly weapon....the victim has a right to defend him/herself. "




rocks and stones festival wrote on Mar 27, 2011 5:54 PM:

" For those of you that hate, resent the BP and are pro drugs, but this in your book. Let's have a "Rock and Stone Throwing Fiesta," then use you as head and body targets, just to see what kind of "minor" damages these softball size missiles will do to your Cabeza/Heads. Let the stoning begin, Nero has spoken! "




miller wrote on Mar 27, 2011 4:48 PM:

" i love how officers jeopardize their safety by escalating and not de-escalating the situation. He took a non deadly situation to a deadly situation with no witnesses. That officer should definitely go back to the academy. The 19 year old, regardless if he was bin laden, should be looked at as a jeapordy not an imminent threat, it is called officer discretion. "




nearby border patrol agent wrote on Mar 27, 2011 4:47 PM:

" how about the time one of our men got shot. you dont hear much about it but when its one of these teenagers who cant seem to get out of trouble its a big deal and now almost everyone is blaming the bp. we were taught that if our life is threatened we are to respond with force. and as mentioned a rock can be deadly depending where it can hit us. "




socalrider wrote on Mar 27, 2011 9:24 AM:

" For those of you who think the force was excessive, rocks are deadly and can kill you. Human beings have been killing with rocks as a method since the dawn of man and I challenge any of you to say otherwise when a man is throwing rocks at you. "




He was no saint wrote on Mar 27, 2011 4:19 AM:

" This 19 year old man (not kid) knew what he was doing. I don't know why some of you are making him seem like a saint. He had drugs in the car which makes him a murderer; yes I said murderer. What do drugs do but kill and break families apart, kids get neglected and abused. Drugs brings out the demon in people. So don't tell me rocks don't kill either. Read the Bible, there is a story of a young boy who killed a giant with a rock. We weren't there, we don't know how the suspect was acting, but I do know he sped like a maniac down my street and I live across a school. Thankfully, it was bad weather and the kids were inside. "




bv wrote on Mar 26, 2011 11:26 PM:

" For those that think that rocks are no big deal, feel free. Have someone throw a few at your head and let us know how it works for ya. "




Law Enforcement wrote on Mar 26, 2011 6:15 PM:

" Well another dead body and another murder walking the streets im sorry not murderer i meant law enforcement walking the street... Now i know if anyonr throws a rock at me its concidered life theatening and i anyone can shoot to kill shooot once twice even three times... As if Douglas needed more reasons to commit crime...Thank You Law Enforcement "




American Citizen wrote on Mar 26, 2011 2:42 PM:

" We should thank God everyday for the men and women of the BP who put their lives on the line for us. One more "drug deal" and it might have been an ozy instead of a rock the punk had in his hand. Run from the law, attempt to harm a federal officer, (with any weapon), he paid the price for his arrogance and supidity.

BORDER PATROL - thank you for your service, keep up the good work!

The loss of a life is sad, however, when anyone feel they are above the law, they will eventually pay the piper. We see everyday the affects the cartels, and a national drug/lawless mentality has on society - it ain't gonna happen here - PERIOD!

My sympathy to the young man's family.

"Mark" pretty irresponsible statement, if you can back it up you have an obligation to do so. If not, we all know where your head is! "




suportthebp wrote on Mar 26, 2011 1:15 PM:

" We need to stand with those who are protecting our country. These men and women risk their lives daily for your homes and families. Why not put yourself in their shoes before condemning them for protecting you. "




candy wrote on Mar 26, 2011 10:28 AM:

" So just because he had a record or because some one breaks the law they deserve to die........I think some people should think about what they are commenting.....yea he might have had a record and he did break the law but that doesn't give any one a reason to take some ones life. "




Karen wrote on Mar 26, 2011 9:00 AM:

" How can a border patrol begin to think that a person trying to escape, and throwing rock is going to surrender peacefully? The border patrol must protect himself and ultimately the American Citizen. The border region is like a war zone. Thank you border patrol for protect America. "




Phoenix Firebird wrote on Mar 26, 2011 12:32 AM:

" Really? REALLY? Some of the comments on here are absolutely disgusting. All I can say is +1 For the good guys. Like we really need more drug smugglers in this country. The next time a BP Agent saves you? Be sure to tell him how his friend killing someone who attacked him was ''unreasonable.'' Unfricking believeable. Did anyone consider rocks could be deadly? No? EH! WRONG! You can be killed with a rock. His life was in danger and he did the reasonable thing. If youre so much in favor of Drug smugglers, You may go shack up with them. "




EL CZAR wrote on Mar 26, 2011 12:05 AM:

" The bright side of this story is one less drug smuggler off the street. Carlos was a dirt bag in the first place. The vehicle contain Marijuana and we don't need that in our community. "




T wrote on Mar 25, 2011 9:27 PM:

" I think everyone who thinks a rock is nothing should all stand in a line and let grown men hurl rocks at them. That might change their minds. This young man had multiple chances to stop, he didn't. He was running drugs, he crashed into a BP vehicle, his buddies were trying to injure an Agent. He is the one who escalated this into violence and he lost.
As for the windshield being cracked as opposed to broken, do you think the Agent would have cared if those rocks had hit his head and cracked it instead of breaking it? Don't be stupid, either way, a rock can be a deadly weapon.
The Agent did what he felt was needed in order to protect his own life. He didn't start the fight, but he sure did end it.
And for popping tires, vehicles can go a long way on flats and then what were cops supposed to do? Walk up and gently arrest him because he was obviously so willing to be arrested? "




kuddosbpagent wrote on Mar 25, 2011 7:04 PM:

" If you think being hit with rocks is no big deal, go ahead and hang out on the line and have someone chuck some rocks at you. This guy chose to flee from the law while smuggling and then assaulted a BP agent with a deadly object. BP did the right thing defending their life. Too bad this kid died, but he chose his own path and made his decisions like everyone else has the right to. "




The Reality wrote on Mar 25, 2011 6:49 PM:

" It's too bad that it came down to this, but the guy is responsible for his actions. Don't treat him like a poor little teenager who could do no wrong. He had no regard for the safety of the public by driving at a high rate of speed with a car full of drugs, what if he would have hit somebody and killed somebody? Then what? It would have been DPD's or BP's fault right? Yeah. And for those who think rocks aren't a deadly weapon let me throw a baseball sized rock at 80 mph aimed at your head and see if you walk away. "




Nodetails wrote on Mar 25, 2011 6:27 PM:

" How could an article leave out so many details? To make the victim look innocent and the BP member guilty. Ask, why did the 19 yr old MAN flee? Allegedly, he had drugs..trying to flee to the border through Douglas streets at high speeds.
You call this innocent behavior? But quickly everyone blames the BP agent that shot him. If the 19 yr old did not commit a crime, then he would be alive today because there would have been no incident. Many easy solutions...STOP BREAKING THE LAW. "




ex-cop wrote on Mar 25, 2011 3:55 PM:

" most of this negative comments are from racists although they might have mexican blood in their veins, How Would you Feel if the 19 year old was your Son, Grandchildren , or Nephew?
think about it "




NotPebbles wrote on Mar 25, 2011 3:31 PM:

" These rocks aren't pebbles they are brick size rocks that are deadly, and he is a drug smuggler! Come on! I'm sure he also had fair warning to stop and surrender before getting shot- he chose not to do so- thats what happens when you smuggle drugs, start high speed chases, and then assualt an officer! Maybe he should have gotten a real job instead of smuggling drugs! Its all about choices and consequences! "




Carlos Norris wrote on Mar 25, 2011 3:26 PM:

" Didn't David slay Goliath with a stone? "




Douglas Girl wrote on Mar 25, 2011 3:10 PM:

" If you read the story..it DOESNT make sense. If you're speeding away as the article says... then when did he throw the rocks!? Either he was driving or throwing rocks. Its the BPs defense to say he shot him because he got rocks thrown at, but really the story doesnt make sense. Hopefully they investigate and get it right. "




judamu wrote on Mar 25, 2011 2:48 PM:

" Monica, Mark, DOUGLASRESIDENT, upsetoverthis-

You have absolutely no what you are talking about. I am currently a BP Agent in CA and it sickens me to read what you have posted. Imagine someone throwing a baseball 10 feet from you and striking you in the head. MLB players have been knocked out and suffered severe head injuries from similar incidents and they wear helmets . Now take that rock and add jagged edges and sharp points. Now do you still think its just a little ol' rock.

Upsetofthis-in no Law enforcement handbook it says shoot to wound and you never shoot tires, this isnt a video game or make believe child games. grow up

DOUGLASRESIDENT- I knew of someone who got rocked while in his vehicle and yea it just shattered the glass but glass fragments got in his eyes and destroyed his left cornea. Let me guess they didnt put that on the news because its ok to assault a law enforcement officer.

mark-corrupt? Fearing for ones life is corrupt. Let me stand in front of you and start throwing rocks.....are you going to thank me then walk away. You are being assaulted and Im pretty sure thats a crime.

Monica-same goes for you, your ignorant to look at the bigger picture. the rocks thrown by these criminals arent your little round soft garden stones. it is considered a deadly weapon. A beer bottle or glass bottle is considered a deadly weapon, fist deadly weapon, broom stick etc. He was trying to harm, injury or even kill the agent. if not why didnt he throw flowers or his wallet or his drugs that were in the car. Why dont you stop being one sided and look what actually is going on.

You guys that are trying to put down the BP agent should be ashamed of yourselves. Trying to protect america, his life and others lives and you all spit on him. Straight ignorance!

Please respond.......Im stating facts and ignorant opinions are being posted. "




Bob wrote on Mar 25, 2011 2:36 PM:

" Sorry guys but throwing rocks DOESN't deserve deadly force in return. At least not in the United States. Maybe we should teach our kids if another kid throws rock at you, it's okay to kill them? It's time for civilan review or their actions. This is just going to become another BP cover up. Sorry but I don't buy it. "




John W Goerger wrote on Mar 25, 2011 12:52 PM:

" Wel, let's see...the last time I checked, a person 18 is an "ADULT" and you know what? A rock can kill you! As with all news stories there is additonal info not covered and as such, the moral to this incident is; "don't throw rocks in a Gunfight!" One less "hood" we civilans have to deal with! "




Gary wrote on Mar 25, 2011 12:14 PM:

" Unbelievable. Sticks and stones may break your bones but bullets will surely kill you. Keep up the good work BP. You are a credit to your uniform and the enormous amount of taxpayers dollars needed to support you. That's what happens when you give weapons to those who are not sufficiently trained on when to use them. Unbelievable. "




life time resident. wrote on Mar 25, 2011 12:03 PM:

" Two young men from Douglas were killed this weekend. One was killed by fellow drug smugglers and one was killed by law enforcement. They both were involved in drug smuggling. Why are we not as upset at the drug cartel for murdering a young man who was unarmed and sitting down at a table? We tend to get upset at law enforcement when they shot a criminal. When a criminal shots a criminal people just see it as part of the game. Mr. Gama had family in Douglas, AZ and I didn't even see his name in the paper. May these both young rest in peace. "




Also a Douglas resident wrote on Mar 25, 2011 11:54 AM:

" Let me start by saying its sad that Carlos Lamadrid is dead and that I feel for his family. The problem is the life Carlos lived he was always in trouble with law enforcement.On this day he was in control of the whole situation he made the choice to pick up the marijuana. He made the choice to create a high speed chase in Douglas and try to flee from law enforcement. He mad the choice to ram a boder patrol agent. He made the choice to throw rocks at the boder patrol agents. Now he is dead and his family is hurting for his choices.
As far as his so called friends why did they not try to help him out instead of running away. His friends sat across the line video tapeing everything to put it on youtube. They were with him in the truck and got away but they will never come forward they are just as responsible for carlos lamadrid life. I hope other kids in Douglas, AZ learn from this. "




JJ wrote on Mar 25, 2011 11:48 AM:

" For those of you don't believe that rocks can be used to kill, look up some pics. Better yet, how about i give u a gun and u stand still while I pelt u with rocks or let me ram my vehicle into yours consistantly. I guarantee you will shoot. If he hadn't tried to flee in the first place or been a drug smuggler he'd still be alive. He made a choice and there are consequences. "




Pro-Border Patrol wrote on Mar 25, 2011 10:59 AM:

" Ok for those of you who don't think a rock is a deadly weapon have a rock get smashed up-side your head 3 times and tell me how you feel... "




ProundHispanicBornUSA wrote on Mar 25, 2011 10:58 AM:

" Also Douglas, AZ needs to start watching more FOX News, CNN, Discovery Channel, and A&E. And Stop Watching GORDO AND FLACA!!! Our kids need more education and less Novelas. Maybe they will not turn out like this MAN did in dying for being a total IDIOT!! "




ProudHispanincBornUSA wrote on Mar 25, 2011 10:54 AM:

" Look people get you facts straight before YOU jump the gun. This MAN was breaking the law. He did not care for anyone or anything in his way. He was breaking the LAW. I think this TOWN needs to realize that this is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Not Agua Preita North! We need to get our priorities in check for our community. This MAN is not what our community NEEDS. The Law Enforcement officers where in FACT. ENFORCING the LAW. Thank you US BORDER PATROL keep up the good work. "




WEWANTJUSTICE wrote on Mar 25, 2011 10:31 AM:

" To the person talking sm@ck about this kid yeah maybe he did get in trouble and yeah maybe he did runaway from the law but seriously when its all said and done the agents are more corrupted than anyone else. Give me a break they throw some rocks at you and you respond with 3 bullets thats just very coward and if they feel their life is in danger maybe they arent suited for that job. 3 bullets in return for some rocks WOW how threatning. "




DCTucson wrote on Mar 25, 2011 10:21 AM:

" If this person was smuggling drugs as it has been said, it does NOT mean that he deserved to die. I am all for Border Patrol and Law Enfrocement to protect us and go after those who break the law, but I also keep an open mind. Don't forget that agents and officers do make mistakes and this seems to me like the officer mis-calculated the level of danger he was in and over reacted. Please don't forget that this person has a mother who is suffering, would you want people to call your dead son an "idiot?" "




just me.... wrote on Mar 25, 2011 10:11 AM:

" so let me get this straight....
he was running dope.
he ran away from douglas pd and sherriff.
he fled at a high rate of speed through the city of douglas.
he crashed into the bp.
he threw rocks.
he's dead.
and there are people out there who are mad that he was killed?
thank god he didn't kill any bystanders with his pendejadas running through douglas at high speed
thank god no other innocent bystanders were killed when he finally stopped
thank god an all out war didn't start at the border with his spotters watching from the roof top across the border
thank god they stopped this criminal who apparently wasn't his first time running dope.
this is what is wrong with our society. people don't take responsibility for their actions.
instead of people saying "he got what he deserved for breaking the law"... they are saying "dumb border patrol is afraid of rocks".
may he rest in peace. he is now facing his true judge, GOD! may his family rest knowing that their son isn't running drugs anymore. may the community of douglas rest knowing one less criminal is off the street. may the law enforcement agencies involved rest knowing they did their job. "




Boys in Blue wrote on Mar 25, 2011 10:09 AM:

" I myself and a law enforcement officer and I would NOT think twice about pulling my gun to protect my life. At the end of the day, I want to know that I did my job and I want to go home to my family. I'm sure the family is grieving, but they should really be mad at the people whose dope their son was running. If these "rocks" people don't think are a big deal, if it can break or crack a windshield, what do you think it would do if it hits someone in the head? Thats right, it could kill someone, therefore deadly force is justified. And also, we are not trained to shoot to wound, we are trained to only fire upon things that are threating your own or others officers life. SO kuddos to the BP Agent for going home at the end of the day and prayers to the Lamadrid family. "




no name just reason wrote on Mar 25, 2011 9:52 AM:

" I am sorry that this 19 year old lost his life for someone's benefits-the druglords who didn't even know this kid and don't even care. I know that rocks can cause a lot of damage and even death so don't try to make it seem that it is not a weapon. Dealers of his kind do carry guns too so lets just wait until he finishes throwing his rocks then pull a gun out then now i'll shoot back, come on douglas people and wake up and don't give them any benefit of doubt when they are doing illegal activities, he was in the wrong and that was the chances he wanted to take instead of getting a real job. "




Corruption At Its Best wrote on Mar 25, 2011 9:04 AM:

" So the kid went at high speed, got off his truck, picked up rocks to throw at the border agents. Boy the kid must have been pretty fast. I am sure the crack on the window was from a flying rock coming from the high speed chase. There is no excuse, just another resident killed by the corrupt border agents. This isn't the first man killed by these evil people and with the greed and hatred that the border agents come in with, I am sure it will not be the last. What a shame, what a loss, what evil. "




JLO wrote on Mar 25, 2011 8:53 AM:

" One less drug smuggler out on the streets. GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "




castro wrote on Mar 25, 2011 8:47 AM:

" .if the guy was throwing a rock i agree it has no comparision to 3 bullets!! the border patrol is wrong! i hope he goes to jail!1 and to top if of the time it hit him in the leg and the second on the back when he was trying to jump back to mexico!!! THE BORDER PATROL IS WRONG!! && i hope they firgure that out!!! "




Kim wrote on Mar 25, 2011 8:33 AM:

" This 'man' made some unfortunate choices...smuggling drugs, running from the law, throwing rocks at armed officers. While it is sad that one so young is dead, he is the one who made the bad choices. "




M.R wrote on Mar 25, 2011 1:19 AM:

" Where Are The Rights for Human Beings? We We want Justice This Is Not Right!!
PEOPLE FROM ARIZONA OPEN YOUR EYES!!!
WE ARE TIERD OF ALL THE VIOLENCE WHO IS DIFENDING USS?... ALL YOU POLICES ARE DOING YOUR JOB WRONG,, AND BORDER PATROLS TOO...THIS IS CHILD ABUSE!! "




Unknown wrote on Mar 25, 2011 1:10 AM:

" A Young man was killed over being shot three times.. this particular action could have been handle in a different manner. The BP had no reason to fire three shots to take that guy down.i know it their job to secure the border, but thats not the way of handling things now a days. there are more alternatives then just shooting a person!! "




Bill wrote on Mar 25, 2011 12:09 AM:

" This kid must have been really good to be driving at high speeds while throwing rocks out the window. Maybe shot 3 times in the back is a clue?

Hitler started out with his brown shirts, we've got our green shirts. Way to go guys. "




Anonymous wrote on Mar 25, 2011 12:03 AM:

" I disagree with all you people against the 19 year old. First of all, if it would have been a border patrol agent who was being shot and killed, right now the whole United States government would have been on the case, but since its not, the government refuses to make justice. I believe in my opinion justice should be made and stop with all this controversy. The Border Patrol agent who shot the man should simply plead to this case and get it over with. In the end were only human and people do make mistakes. There is absolutely nothing that can bring back the man's life. So I suggest justice for Calos Lamadrid's family and in the name of his memory. "




DUH wrote on Mar 24, 2011 10:42 PM:

" If a 30 year old dirty drug smuggler was shot, nobody would've cared. People would've said, "Thank God those drugs didn't get into our children's hands." But in reality its our children smuggling the drugs! This "child" was a drug smuggler. Dont try to deny it, all our kids know this. Sorry he lost his young life. and may he rest in peace. But for what other reason would you run from the cops! "




CAZTOM wrote on Mar 24, 2011 10:28 PM:

" Of course it was 3 time, he stopped throwing rocks after he got hit the 3rd time besides never bring a ROCK to a gunfight unless you have ROCKS in your brain. He was NO ANGEL. "




PRO-Border Patrol Part 2 wrote on Mar 24, 2011 10:22 PM:

" Dear PRO-Border Patrol person...your an idiot, and I hope your kid is throwing rocks at someone, someday....so someone can kill them and everything will be okay in the end :) "




a.sanchez wrote on Mar 24, 2011 9:53 PM:

" His job is to protect our borders. This 19 yr old knew what he was doing Im sure. So what was the motive behind the rock throwing and shooting the article didn't say. Next time it won't be rocks being thrown at BP. "




DORKS wrote on Mar 24, 2011 9:25 PM:

" Have any of you ever been hit by a rock in the face/head? I have...knocked my YOU NO WHAT out! Lets turn this around and say the Agent got struck in the head...Bad guy "hey look we got him"...lets take his gun and shoot him"...see what I mean...don't Monday Quarterback this...I have heard..."he should of shot him in the leg or in the arm"....Really!? That officer had a split second to make a decision..either him or the bad guy was going home...yes bad guy, look at the facts....and guess what? The bad didn't go HOME! SAD...YES...absolutely....feel very bad for the family..so them in the news...but bottom line..."YOU LIVE BY THE SWORD, YOU DIE BY THE SWORD" "




guero wrote on Mar 24, 2011 8:46 PM:

" always the drugs dealers no one ever talks about the corrupted goverment.. and the wrong things they do.. "




Get Real wrote on Mar 24, 2011 6:59 PM:

" I can’t believe that people think that throwing rocks is okay. It’s easy to say that the Border Patrol Agent was exaggerating when you are not the one who was in that situation. It safe to say that yes rock can and have killed people before so to assume that the BP’s life was not in danger is ridiculous. My husband is a Border Patrol and I have told him to do whatever he has to do to make sure he comes home to me and his kids every day, why should my husband not have the right to protect his life to the fullest when he feels he is in danger? He is out there risking his life every day so that you and your kids can sleep better, because even without praise or whistles and bells, he stops child molesters, murderers, gang members, and drugs from coming into our community so GET REAL people and stop judging someone who was just trying to protect his life. WOULDN’T YOU PROTECT YOURS WITH EVERYTHING YOU HAD?

Proud Wife of a Border Patrol "




me wrote on Mar 24, 2011 6:48 PM:

" I would welcome all of you who say rocks are not a weapon, to come and stand before me while me and my friends hurl fist size rocks at you. Rocks can incapacitate and kill.
And Mr. "upsetoverthis"... how do you know this Agent shot without hesitation? If Agents shot every time they got rocked, the FBI would be investigating a shooting every shift. "




ex-resident wrote on Mar 24, 2011 6:47 PM:

" It is unfortunate to see how ignorant people are in this town. He WAS STILL A TEENAGER and it doesn’t matter what kind of trouble he was or had been that does not give anyone the right to take his life. You cannot compare rocks to bullets, and don’t they carry other types of weapons that aren’t necessary deadly ones. I still don’t understand how he could have been throwing rocks at them when he is driving? Or was it while he was running, because he was already at the top of the fence when he was shot so I don’t think he was standing there throwing rocks! Doesn’t make any sense & I hope the border patrol that KILLED him because that’s what he did pays for his actions.
Don’t they teach them use of force and when to use it?
In addition to that not only did they shoot him three times but then they handcuffed him and dragged him... really? "




SAM wrote on Mar 24, 2011 6:35 PM:

" Douglas is a PRO Criminal Anti Law Enforcement Community. Life is Precious but there are consequences when you decide to enter the criminal World. Some People are Blind or better yet Ignorant. If your in the GAME and you dont produce you WILL be found on the side of the Agua Prieta Highway in pieces? Now! Understand this, if you can FATHOM more than four letter words. We AMERICANS, those who are marijuana smokers, meth users, coke users and the like should be responsible for the DEATHS of BOTH sides of our Border. The U.S. is the #1 Consumer of Illegal Drugs.. Blame yourselves... "




OtherInfo wrote on Mar 23, 2011 8:38 PM:

" It was heard in other related stories that the 19 year old hit the agent's vehicle with his car in addition to throwing deadly rocks....he also had dope with him... "




upsetoverthis wrote on Mar 23, 2011 7:19 PM:

" Once again those arrogant BP's firing without hesitation i never knew that a few rocks are actually enough of a reason to feel your life is in danger they could of just wounded him or popped his tires or something...................... "




DOUGLASRESIDENT wrote on Mar 23, 2011 7:10 PM:

" ITS SAD TO SEE HOW BORDER PATROL AGENTS DONT WEIGH THE MAGNITUDE OF THINGS AND ALWAYS JUMP A NOTCH AND END UP KILLING SOMEONE. YEAH THEY ARE TRYING TO SECURE OUR BORDERS BUT LETS BE REALISTIC YOU CAN NOT COMPARE A ROCK THROWN TO 3 BULLETS FIRED. IF YOU SEE CLOSELY THE AGENTS WINDSHIELD IS NOT EVEN BROKEN ITS JUST CRACKED. BUT OBVIOUSLY ITS OK FOR THEM TO OPEN FIRE JUST FOR A FEW ROCKS THROWN. ONCE AGAIN YOU CAN NOT COMPARE ROCKS TO BULLETS. "




mark wrote on Mar 23, 2011 3:43 PM:

" those corrupt boder patrols, rhere they go again!!! "




wrote on Mar 23, 2011 2:01 PM:

" SHOULDN'T THE HEADLINE READ "19 YEAR OLD ALLEGED DRUG SMUGGLER SHOT WHEN HE ATTEMPTED TO ESCAPE TO MEXICO". DON'T GET ME WRONG THIS IS A SAD THING THAT HAPPED BUT DON'T MAKE THE BORDER PARTOL AGENT OUT TO BE THE BAD GUY. "




Pro-Border Patrol wrote on Mar 23, 2011 12:08 PM:

" I would have done the same thing. A rock is considered a deadly weapon and he knew what he was doing when he did it. He was obviously breaking the law when he sped away; it wasn't like he was just sitting on a river bank skipping rock. "




me wrote on Mar 23, 2011 12:04 PM:

" I hate how other news agencies keep referring to this guy as a teenager. He has always been in trouble with the law and was a grown man. I'm sure glad this incident only involved this idiots life and not an innocent bystander when he traveling through the streets of Douglas at high speeds. No one is mentioning how he had no regard for anyones life but his own after he was observed smuggling drugs.

I'm glad the agent was not hit by the rocks (usually the size of softballs). We as a community need to support those men and women who keep us safe. "




Monica wrote on Mar 23, 2011 11:37 AM:

" so he felt so threatened by the rocks and thats why he shot him 3 times yeah right!!!!!!!! "

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