to sensitive nerve wrote on Feb 22, 2012 8:15 PM:

" Actually my kids are adults and out of school and whether or not they use facebook is their business. You obviously have a facebook issue. You fail to mention what knowledge is lacking and what criticism is unnecessary. Instead you state opinion rather than fact. I brought up issues, period! I defended someone that also raised concerns, period. So here is some advice to you. When you make accusations without factual knowledge you don't sound very intelligent, just confrontational. So please give examples of what you deem critical or lacking of knowledge. And please go see someone about your facebook issue. By the way I think facebook is useless also but what others think about it is not my business. I enjoy debating but it would be nice if there were actual facts to debate. "




Sensitive Nerve wrote on Feb 21, 2012 11:27 PM:

" To the person who answered in "to Incredible" I must have hit a raw nerve. Your kids must be those Facebook junkies and it hurts for you to be told that. You are critical because you lack knowledge. Leave it at that and no you aren't providing any illuminating information just unnecessary criticism. Again watch what your kids are doing and worry about them before you start trying to offer advice. As I said before I am sure "they" know who did the calling. "




Truth be Told wrote on Feb 21, 2012 4:04 PM:

" Hey everyone, listen... We are talking about Douglas Arizona here, so let us be frank and tell it like it is for just this ONE time ok, then we can all go back to the way we are. Douglas is a very clannish town. So we tend to not take criticism well, even if the criticism is constructive and may help, or even if we know it is the truth, we still will not admit to anything. The truth IS that the students should have been moved further from the school during a dangerous bomb threat. In conferring with EOD friend of mine, they state the obvious; no one knows how big or small the explosive material could have been used, nor WHERE in the school it (they) might have been placed, i.e. close to the students waiting area or far from it. With these two facts in mind, the students should have been moved to at least the middle of the Fifteenth street Park (Hint Hint). The other fact is that the school DID do the best they could with the time given in evacuating the school, so good job on that. But what is worry some is there has been no letter to the parents or announcements made to explain the situation to very very concerned parents. A letter or news broadcast immediately after the situation could save face for the district, instead of further fueling the sentiment that the district is incompetent. Oh yeah, by the way before anyone jumps to conclusions, I am a native of Arizona (Douglas), and I know the very hard core will grit their teeth while reading this… but its just the plain and simple unbiased truth. "




To incredible wrote on Feb 19, 2012 11:35 PM:

" You are incredible. The facts I put up about the evacuation distance is from a reputable government site. The facts are the holding areas of these students were not that distance away. Look into how much the district loses for every absence. Another thing about what you mention is it shouldn't be so easy to be critical from afar. If things were done right it would be tough being critical. If critical is showing concern, you should be ashamed of not being critical yourself. As for alarmist opinions issues are just being raised. If it steps on some toes who cares. This is about our kids. Finally, I am still waiting for an ignorant statement to be pointed out. Ignorance is bashing on someone and their kids without even knowing them, just because concerns were brought up. "




Incredible wrote on Feb 19, 2012 11:25 AM:

" Lost money if they went home? Not an issue there are specific days for emergencies. So go ahead take the kids home better yet check out who they Facebook with, chances are your kids knows who is pulling this prank. Second, too close to the building? I believe that was a Law Enforcement move and they were prepared to move students to another site. The District completely worked with all agencies. As an officer on site I have to say it was impressive how quickly the school security got the kids out of the building. You may think "all of you" and "veritas" knows what they're saying but they don't. It's easy to be critical from afar but everything went well and we will learn what needs to be refined. Meanwhile let the professionals handle it. Keep your alarmist opinions to yourself, all you are doing is creating importance to the "caller." "




Dear All of you 2 wrote on Feb 18, 2012 9:08 PM:

" Thank you! I was going to comment also that the students were not at a safe distance. I also find it interesting that the staff was told that any future evacuations shall take place at the student parking lot (near cars and buildings). Also I will not have my child attending school when there has been at least 3 other threats made and the school chose to ignore it and NOT evacuate the children and workers(or tell the parents about them). What if by ignoring these threats it makes the person mad and they decided to follow through with the threat? I understand that it has been very disruptive but safety comes first! "




Veritas wrote on Feb 18, 2012 9:45 AM:

" Questions are not the hard part; it’s the answers that make people uncomfortable.
I asked a couple of questions about the relevance of the emergency response plan the district has in place.
1. Evacuation
2. Isolation to a true “safe zone”
3. The ability to move a large mass of students quickly and orderly
4. Accuracy of student identification
5. Ability to locate individual students quickly
6. Releasing students to their parents and guardians.
It does not matter how you feel about non supportive “ignorant” parents. It does not matter what you may feel about disruptive students. What does matter is the students are under your care and authority and you are responsible to the public interest that they remain safe under your watch.
Given these threats were bogus as historically they usually are. Proper diligence requires that the school and authorities respond each and every time as if “this is the one.” To do so any less is asking for catastrophe. Proper diligence also requires that emergency policies and procedure be reviewed and updated at least annually. And, practiced.
Maybe the school board should evaluate. "




To all of you 2 wrote on Feb 16, 2012 7:53 PM:

" By the way the preferred evacuation distance as stated by the national counter terrorism center is as follows. 5 lb explosive = 400 yards, 20 lbs=580 yards, 50 lbs=600+ yards. So no the students are not out of harms way standing behind the school or across the street from it. If you are going to sound like you are taking these threats seriously your actions should at least look that way too! If the school boards purpose is the children of DUSD they should force better evacuation methods. "




all of you wrote on Feb 16, 2012 7:23 PM:

" Name one thing this veritas said that makes him or her ignorant. You all claim ignorance yet none of you state the ignorant part. As for you, student, if a bomb exploded in the buildings being a "few feet away" would not make you safe, regardless who is with you.Talking about accountability, you keep my child within a few feet of an explosion, and DUSD wouldn't have enough money to pay all the lawsuits that would follow. You are also wrong about the time frame. Because of the length of the time frame there was plenty of time to take all students to further locations.No one needs to attend your school to recognize the fact the if this were the real thing students were not in a safe location. Even in a controlled demolition of a building people are not allowed to stand so close to the building. So if you have the "ordacity" to bash a person with legitimate questions I think you should think a little more clearly and maybe study some physics.
I look forward to reading what people consider ignorant, except for the few of you that will consider this post ignorant because it to is bringing up legitimate issues.I wonder how much money plays into this equation. Think of all the money the district would lose if students were taken home by concerned parents. "




To Veritas II wrote on Feb 15, 2012 7:33 PM:

" I'm a student at DHS. I think that what the DHS administration was great, considering the circumstances. Do you think that at 6:30 in the morning short after recieving a bomb threat call, the administration would be so detailed about getting us seperated into classes? No, they wanted to keep us safe, and even if it was feet away from the school we were pretty safe with staff keeping us calm and secure. And another thing, they wouldnt let us out for our own safety, What if somethinmg had happened to a student shortly after they left the softball field? That would be an accountability against the school, and that's the last thing that they want on days like these. The adminstration did a great job, they couldn't send us any where else considering the time frame. We keep routine drills going, Once a month at least, and they are pretty useful. If they weren't useful yesterday would have been chaos behind the school, They are useful and do help us alot, Since you don't attend our school and don't know what's going on during the day, you have the great ordacity to just bash the school administration like that. Rethink what you say please. "




Taxpayer wrote on Feb 15, 2012 11:34 AM:

" Veritas needs to understand and know themeaning to the word"IGNORANCE", look it up Veritas! "




To Veritas wrote on Feb 14, 2012 7:17 PM:

" All you bashing Veritas need to get off your high horse. He brought up legitimate issues. Staff needs to be accountable for every single student. I don't care how many are involved. Having students in the ball field behind the school or across the street from it makes no sense at all. If there was a disaster at the school the proximaty of the holding areas would lead to chaos and possible injury. There is nothing wrong with suggesting review of a policy. Why bash it? "




AZ wrote on Feb 14, 2012 4:43 PM:

" Obviously, the caller just wanted to get out of school for a couple days. "




Angry wrote on Feb 14, 2012 1:48 PM:

" It is soooo obvious that Veritas has never worked with young adults or parents of these young adults!! Thank you administration for doing the best you are able to dispite all these cuts and ignorant parents. It is parents like Veritas that are so blind and say " NO NOT MY CHILD" and will blame anyone else but will never admit it is because of these kids that we no longer have a school educating instead of babysitting!!!! "




really wrote on Feb 14, 2012 10:47 AM:

" well in all honesty this stuff happened in bisbee when i was in middle school only they used powdered suger to look like anthrax to avoid getting there reprt card if this was high school these kids need to grow up "




Annoyed wrote on Feb 13, 2012 4:55 PM:

" I think Veritas needs to keep his Pie Hole $hut. That is the main reason why our youth is so arrogant and useless because of parents like Veritas always being critical and having negative input. Veritas drink your HATERADE. "




SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION SUPPORTER wrote on Feb 13, 2012 4:51 PM:

" TO VERITAS:

VERITAS IT IS SO OBVIOUS YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER IGN0R@NT PARENT WHO DOES NOT EVEN CONTROL THEIR OWN KIDS AND WANTS TO SHOW DHS ADMINISTRATORS HOW TO RUN THE SCHOOL SERIOUSLY YOU NEED TO FIND A JOB AND STOP H@TING ON ADMINISTRATORS. DHS ADMINISTRATORS YOU DID A GREAT JOB KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. "




Fuzzy wrote on Feb 12, 2012 11:03 PM:

" And the bomb threats will continue as long as the authorities and school administration continue to overreact every time. The brain damaged fools who make the calls get a kick out of watching the reactions they get. "




Veritas wrote on Feb 12, 2012 4:12 PM:

" To Veritas,
Dont missinterpret my original post as a bashing towards any staff. My concearns were towards the policies and procedures. They seem to be in need of review.

Reading comprehension is critical to the teaching profession. I suggest you re-read.. I'm not going to rehash with you what makes good sence to you or not when it comes the safety of our loved ones.

Yes, parents are going to be upset when they are not given access to their children. What else would you expect? From your writing I gather you have no children of your own. If you had children you would understand this clearly.

Critical incident management is a beast unto itself, that requires coordination and effective planning. It needs to be learned, practiced, and always improved upon.

Basically I put some issues out there to think about. If you are under the opinion that all went smoothly,I say look to those you serve "the parents." The primary educators.

I say if it was a "active incident" with damage, would DHS survive the headlines. A question for you. Did you have or was there in place an accurate count roster identifying those "thousand students" that were secured onto the ball field? by name and face to ID card check? Were they segregated by home room, or by last name or by grade level for quick access?

Your opinion is worthy, albeit bitter and apathetic comparing it to your statement of having to "Control a thousand kids and the yelling rude parents". Maybe its time for you to seek something more enriching for yourself, other than teaching. Only you can answer that.

Seek out the author Gavin DeBecker and read his book "The Gift of Fear" (Oprah loved him) "




To Veritas wrote on Feb 11, 2012 7:59 PM:

" I'd like to see you control over a thousand kids. The administration did a great job and the rude parents that yelled at teachers for asking them to follow procedure should be ashamed of themselves. Yeah you can sit on your high horse but your comment shows complete lack of knowledge and I doubt you can even control your own kids. For the most part all the kids were pretty good under unusual circumstances but as a long time educator there were years we were going through this twice a day. So the administration did a marvelous job of keeping kids in school and not giving them the day off. Meanwhile keep your advice to yourself because it is useless! "




Great Job wrote on Feb 11, 2012 9:41 AM:

" It's so easy to be critical. I for one know that teachers, administration and law enforcement did a heck of a job! My daughter was cold on the field the first time but that was the price for having to wait for police to check the school. Later when they were allowed back in where carts with warm breakfasts were waiting to serve as they got into class. Second day they gave the kids a late start which was a great idea. Third day nothing happened but kids were angry at the fool who called in because they want to be in school. Former principal Bonnie Lopez gave a serious message to kids on why these acts were nothing to take lightly and that consequences to the persons doing this would be considered a legal matter. My daughter said you could hear a pin drop when she spoke. These idiots who called are wasting tax dollars and school time. Thank goodness for a fast acting school security team. Because they have to worry about safety regardless if it is a prank. So don't be critical be thankful it turned out with no one hurt. I am sure security will look at how it went and improve if they need to. Silvia Montano "




Veritas wrote on Feb 10, 2012 12:41 AM:

" Some observations. The campus was closed and the parents were directed by school staff to drop off their kids at the aquatic center? No information was given to what was going on. Other than "Oh. it's ok drop them off there."

#1 Why in all common sense would they do that, the aquatic center is just as vulnerable to an incident as the campus and should of been part of the sweep. it doesn't make sense.

#2 Why in the world would parents think it would be a good idea to go ahead and drop their students off while an incident was occurring. It doesn't make sense.

So as the children were herded into holding areas and the incident drew on' Parents were showing up and were not being allowed to remove there children from the holding areas. In other words Many Parents were denied access to their children! This does not make any sence.

Doesn't DHS policy state that when a parent comes to the command center their child will be released to them.. Not when its covenant or when they school leaders decide its ok.

I think DHS school leadership should look at their critical incident responses and fix what needs to be repaired. Maybe they need to start running active drills in student safety, containment,student identification and immediate removal of students to thier parents. And realize that the Aquatic center is not the place to keep students for any critical response issues.

Maybe its time to revamp campus security procedures,get some leadership in there that understands critical incident managment, who can set up policies and conduct drills. It's time to think out of the box. "




Taxpayer wrote on Feb 9, 2012 6:43 PM:

" Who ever is doing this needs attend, and has no goals. come grow up! If you are a nobody .... stay away. Let these other student who have goals reach them by stoping this mess. "




Me wrote on Feb 9, 2012 6:15 PM:

" i was mad on the first day! keeping us scared in the cold feet away from the school not knowing if there was a bomb or not who ever is doing this, they should stop before they cause more problems "




Annonymus wrote on Feb 9, 2012 12:32 PM:

" This is STUPID!!!!!
Other person - I know huh!@!!!! >:\
the people who are calling need to get a life Some of us really want to learn "




Teacher wrote on Feb 9, 2012 11:43 AM:

" Kids just pulling pranks to stay out of school, nothing ever changes. "

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